(Reading through the explanations on why Echofeed is being shut down, I feel the painful technical part of it more and more and I'm kind of sad there wasn't a chance to provide more help to still sort of keep that running. But I am also left wondering whether this is sort of a watershed moment of learning that this POSSE approach often proposed by the IndieWeb crowd actually just works in a very limited DYIish content for people who are able to handle that on their very own within their very own small scale with handcrafted solutions - which excludes everyone not really able of doing so at all. And it makes me wonder whether, ultimately, the idea proposed by ATProto - keep all your data in one single repository and available, visible to multiple different applications catering to different needs - might generally be smarter than having to copy data all around the 'net dozens and dozens of times.)

Washed into my timeline, in between:

"Traditional federation lacks modularity. Hosting, distribution, moderation, algorithms, and business logic are located in the hosting instance. This creates a weak separation of powers. Ideally, users reduce the power of a popular instance by devolving specific functions to other providers. We want to preserve rights in the default course of operation; separating powers helps achieve that."

https://www.pfrazee.com/blog/practical-decentralization - definitely worth reading. In virtually every paragraph of it.

#digital_technologies #social_networks #atproto #activitypub #federation

Listenings started: 

"[...]No, I'm so excited about it. It really, I'm really passionate about this. Because, I think some people because we chose to build on the AT protocol. Some people have asked me where it's like, oh, did you not like ActivityPub? And I'm like, no, no, no. Like, this is a yes and not an either or, right? I think of that. I don't know if you know that the Spider Man meme where there's like three spider mans and they're all pointing at each other. I'm like, we do not want to become that. We are all Spider Man, you know, and we have some bigger fish to fry. We are working together, and we are going to fry those fish well.[...]"

Not completely done listening to this one, and there are some assumptions I feel uneasy with (like, the in some of these networks reoccurring assumptions that users are basically just "content creators" aiming at in whichever way collecting and keeping followers to consume whatever they produce), but some other aspects definitely resonate, and this one about the need for collaboration rather than competition in the "open social web" space definitely standing out. Worth checking out.

https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/tori-white 

#podcast #social_networks #atproto